For those who want to get into this issue a little more without all the slander, gossip and rumors please view Snopes and FactCheck caught misrepresenting the position of those after Obama's birth certificate..... You will find much needed information on the issue of Obama's certificate so you aren't confused on either side.
Lawsuit distinction necessary
Suit contesting Barack Obama's citizenship heads to U.S. Supreme Court Friday-"Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.....Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard—and not all of those ultimately were successful."-Just in case you are wondering what this case is about since this article doesn't explain much about the cases in detail it is easy to get the lawsuites confused. Check out the plaintiffs blog below as he corrects the press...
ABC NEWS GETS THE DONOFRIO SCOTUS STORY WRONG-"The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen - at birth - a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a “natural born citizen”. The word “born” has meaning. It deals with the status of a presidential candidate “at birth”. Obama had dual nationality at birth. The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status “at birth.” If one is not “born” a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen....the Constitution draws a direct distinction between “Citizens” and “Natural Born Citizens”
Here is a history of this case-"October 27 - Leo Donofrio files case against SOS in New Jersey
Judge Sabation dismissed it
Donofrio appeals to New Jersey Supreme Court
October 31 - Honorable Justice Virginia A. Long dismissed it
November 3 - Donofrio appeals to the US Supreme Court
November 6 - Justice Souter denies application For Emergency Stay
Case is still "pending" because of Mr. Bikell's error...November 19 - Update
Justice Thomas distributes to conference. Check it out...
December 1 - Correction
Full Court has distributed this case to conference on December 5th, not just Justice Thomas. This means that, according to the docket, all 9 Justices have agreed to have a Rule of 4 Conference on December 5th. If 4 of the 9 Justices respond to Leo's case, we are going to see some real action! Here's a good report from the Right Side of Life."-A quote from the Right Side of Life state "If 5 of the 9 Justices respond in the affirmative, they could grant a stay of the Electoral College vote."
Another lawsuit concerning Obama birth certificate and more
It is important to distinguish between the lawsuits. All the lawsuits have different concerns as is apparent by these two that have succeeded thus far and are getting the most public attention as of late though there are others. I had to clarify one of my posts at Snopes and FactCheck caught misrepresenting the position of those after Obama's birth certificate.... an important distinction between the two lawsuits that could have easily misled others.
Federal suit seeks Obama certificate-"Another legal effort to force state officials to produce a copy of President-elect Barack Obama's birth certificate has been filed, this time in federal court.
Similar legal actions have been filed here and in several other states, including New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, Georgia and Mississippi.
Circuit Judge Bert Ayabe last month dismissed the suit filed in state court here, upholding arguments from Gov. Linda Lingle's administration that birth records are confidential under state law.
The new challenge is an outgrowth of a legal suit filed in Mississippi, which questioned whether Obama is a "natural born citizen" of the U.S.
Plaintiffs in that suit subpoenaed a copy of the birth certificate Nov. 26 from the Hawai'i Health Department. The plaintiffs include conservative political activist and failed presidential candidate Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 U.S. Senate race in Illinois.
Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine wrote Dec. 1 to the local attorney handling the case, James Hochberg, stating that Hawai'i law prohibits disclosure of the record....
"The record could be disclosed to a person whose right to inspect or obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction," the letter continued.....The state's health director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, issued a statement in late October saying that she and the registrar of vital statistics had inspected Obama's Hawai'i birth certificate and found it to be valid.
During the presidential campaign, the Obama camp posted a copy of his Honolulu birth certificate on its Web site. That copy indicates he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961."
Therein lies the dispute in those last two sentences. Please read Snopes and FactCheck caught misrepresenting the position of those after Obama's birth certificate.... all the way down to the bottom. A link to the case mentioned above is in that blog. Please do see why Dr Chiyome Fukino, Snopes and FactCheck have all missed the point and why an actual birth certificate is necessary. Also, note that in that case as you read thru the case which is only 10 pages double printed and hardly a difficult read as you scroll down past the first 8 pages of just names listed you will find that the Secretary of State in California is the one to be sure that those who are on the ballot list qualify for their position and all that the SOS require was a written statement from the candidate that the candidate is a "natural born citizen"!!!
Just so you don't have to link off to my longwinded blog and are just interested in reading the 10 pages of this federal lawsuit here it is at: http://americamustknow.com/Documents/Final%20writ%20Keyes%20v%20Bowen.pdf. But I do suggest that you read thru the blog also to understand this is not at all about anything but eligibility and getting the proof of "natural born citizen" into the right legal hands. That's it at least from my perspective...You will find no crazy rumours...
