Related: FactCheck.org needs some Fact Checking itself. First Amendment attorney tells why many are concerned about hate crimes bills that FactCheck misses.



The UK House of Lords voted for free speech protections in their recent laws of this nature and have done so in the past because of situations like the ones below and also note that even the ACLU agrees that there should be free speech and association protections at: Senate Passes Hate Crimes Amendment Lacking Free Speech And Association Protections

So for The Daily Kos to simplify the argument way out of context is uncalled for or just poor research. See below...

Bloggers misrepresent ADF on “hate” crimes

The Daily Kos and a few other bloggers have misrepresented the position of ADF on the current Hate Crimes Bill based on some selective quoting. For example, The Daily Kos writes:

Along the way to the passage of the Hate Crimes Bill..., there was a telling admission by someone on the right:

“‘This is the first time you would have written into law a government disapproval of a religious belief held by the majority of Americans—that homosexuality is sinful,’ says Erik Stanley, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund. ‘It’s more of a slippery slope argument than about the law itself.’”

So, you see, it’s not that they think GLBT people shouldn’t be protected from hate crimes, but rather that this “slippery slope” thing needs to be nipped in the bud...and what better way to do that than building a major chasm between normal people who deserve overly-equal rights and those people who deserve no rights at all.

Reading the larger context of the U.S. News article from which ADF Senior Legal Counsel Erik Stanley’s quote was taken makes the interpretation of The Daily Kos completely fictitious:

“This is the first time you would have written into law a government disapproval of a religious belief held by the majority of Americans—that homosexuality is sinful,” says Erik Stanley, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund. “It’s more of a slippery slope argument than about the law itself....”

Advocates say hate crimes laws are necessary because bias-motivated crimes terrorize entire communities.

But religious conservatives say that all crimes are motivated by hate and that gay victims shouldn’t be accorded special status. Religious liberties are a much bigger concern. “When you have pastors being called to testify about what they taught or preached to a person convicted of a hate crime, that’s going to send a shock wave through the religious community,” says Stanley. “It will lead to a chill on speech and free exercise of religion as it relates to homosexual behavior.”

The “slippery slope” to which Erik Stanley referred has to do with the “chill on speech and free exercise of religion,” not what The Daily Kos crudely interpreted. ADF has never claimed and does not claim that some people deserve “overly-equal” rights and some deserve “no rights at all.” Indeed, ADF opposes “hate” crimes legislation precisely because we believe that all Americans should have the same rights. All violent crimes are “hate” crimes, and all crime victims deserve equal justice, but the “hate” crimes bill creates a two-tiered justice system with second-class victims.

The bill may not have an immediate direct impact on pastors in the sense that pastors will be hauled off to jail. It’s the long-term impact that’s the problem: A chill on speech and the fact that “hate” crimes laws have historically led to “hate” speech prosecutions."

More reasons: Video of UK couple threatened with Hate Crime for asking library to have a book with another point of view on homosexuality
The Government in the UK is considering a bill that would force churches to accept practicing homosexuals in youth worker positions.
Prime Minister of England's "most influential adviser on gay issues affecting children" caught as pedophile ringleader. Brazil to censor christian TV.
People who oppose same-sex adoption are "retarded homophobes", , according to advice published by a Government-funded adoption charity.
Christianophobia continues to spread thruout the world in the name of homophobia. Polish catholic university censors family values point of view..
Grandparents denied visitation rights because of anti-gay stance in Scotland and Chile student's are taught that Christianity is discriminatory....
Brazilian president wants to "Criminalize words and acts offensive to homosexuality".
"Mr. Bean" wants protection of free speech to remain in "anti-homophobia" law....
Hundreds protest speakers in London who say Gays can change if they want to...
Anti-Christian intolerance from homosexual activists in Germany...
Parents appeal conviction for taking daughter out of sex ed in Germany....
Link to Pro-family and life activist in Brazil's blog who has fled to escape charges of "Homophobia"...
Christianophobia being introduced at the UN
Again, another employee in the UK gets disciplined for biblical views on sexuality.
Christian charity worker supsended after answering a colleagues questions about sexual ethics...
Another UK council worker gets suspended. Bosses told him that even saying "God bless" was unacceptable.
British nurse offers to pray for patient and then gets suspended in the name of equality and diversity.
School receptionist faces sack over prayer request in UK
200 year old Christian charity reveals the "institutionalised Christaphobia" of UK's Brighton Council and the council backs down...


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