Update: Do read below but after you read than here is yet another poll to throw into the mix that HotAir.com reports on at WSJ poll: 62% oppose eliminating collective bargaining rights on benefits for public employees. HotAir.com has yet to be able to examine the sample however this poll confirms the anomaly spoken of below and again I believe this will be a poll of the general public not just voters.

HotAir.com exposed the bias in the recent CBS/New York Times poll that claimed 60% of American support keeping current collective bargaining rights in the public sector. Not only that but 56% did not support cuts in public union employees benefits to help balance the budget. This to me was highly suspicious which suspicion will be justified below in the newly released Quinnipiac Poll's result (just the opposite). A majority of polls don't even come close to this 56% figure but are usually the opposite so this was an odd anomaly to me.

I would just like to add to the post at HotAir.com that CBS/New York Times poll was a poll of the general American public and not just voters from what I understand. If this is so the general public is not generally paying as much and close attention as a voter is generally. Now take that either way you want but I think it is a fair assumption.

But HotAir.com exposed these huge flaws in the CBS/New York Times poll in a post titled A peek under the hood of the NYT/CBS poll

"First, the partisan split in the sample gave a ten-point advantage to Democrats.  Their sample for this poll had a D/R/I split of 36/26/31, an absurd sample for political polling.  In December, Rasmussen’s general-population survey put Republicans ahead, 36.0% to 34.7% for Democrats.  A recent poll by Gallup shows erosion in Democratic affiliation all through 2010.  In 2008, Barack Obama won the popular vote by seven points nationwide, and the NYT/CBS poll assumes that the electorate has grown more Democratic in 2011.

Next, 20% of the poll’s respondents claim to come from union households.  However, only 11.9% of American workers belong to a union, according to a report published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics last month and noted by none other than the Times itself.  Union membership fell to a 70-year low as a percentage of the workforce, which in itself is a rather damning statement about the view of collective bargaining by the vast majority of American workers.  How exactly did the survey manage to comprise itself of almost twice as many union-household respondents for a poll on union policies as union members in the workforce?  Interesting."

"Finally, 25% of respondents are either public employees or share a household with a public employee.  Federal employees comprise less than 2% of the workforce at around 2 million.  Overall, the US has 22.22 million government employees out of an employed workforce of 130.27 million, according to the Current Employment Statistics survey at the BLS.  Government employment accounts for 17% of all workers, so a sample consisting of 25% public-sector households for a survey of adults (not registered voters) seems a little off."

By the way HotAir.com points out similar flaws in a Democrat/Liberal leaning PPP Poll that concluded voters in Wisconsin would not vote for Scott Walker if they had a do over today. "William Jacobson finds similar problems in a widely-quoted PPP poll claiming that Scott Walker would lose to Tom Barrett in a re-do." The first problem which I saw myself right off the bat was that the sample of voters showed 47 to 47 tally of voters who voted for Walker as opposed to his opponent. The actual election results were 52.3 to 46.5 in favor of Walker. 

But today a respected independent pollster in the Quinnipiac poll has justified the skepticism of these two polls. Quinnipiac had these conclusions from their poll:

"Looking at the controversy over pay for government workers, 35 percent say the pay is "about right," while 15 percent say it is too little and 42 percent say it is too much."

"To reduce state budget deficits, collective bargaining for public employees should be limited, 45 percent of American voters tell the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll, while 42 percent oppose limits on collective bargaining. But voters say 63 - 31 percent that government workers should pay more for benefits and retirement programs."

"Efforts by governors to limit collective bargaining rights are motivated by a desire to reduce government costs rather than to weaken unions, voters say 47 - 41 percent."

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